and this was during the years in america when all of the major cities in this country was on fire. when africans in america or black people as we came to call ourselves were standing up against this institutionalized hatred demanding equal justice, equal opportunity, equal voting rights, equal jobs, equal housing. >> host: right. >> guest: and all of those -- and e respect, you know? -- equal respect, you know? that was the, that was the society that i grew up at that time. and when i went on trial, i went on trial with an all-white jury. now, if that all-white jury had thought for one second that john artis and i had murdered those people, they would have burned us to a baking -- [inaudible] but the only evidence that even suggested that we had anything to do with such a thing was two convicts who were in the area that night breaking into a factory and robbing the dead bodies in this lafayette bar and grill. and this one person who was supposed to be the lookout ran out of cigarettes and walked up to the lafayette bar and grill which is a block away. and as he was walking um to th